Narrative vs. evidence; Morgan Reynolds; Mark Conlon; Shanksville; the Pentagon; Curt Weldon; survivors on Stairwell B; Richard Gage; Camp 2 propaganda techniques; the 9/11 Memorial Museum
Thank you, gentlemen, for this very worthwhile presentation! Some of the information was new to me, and Iām glad to have learned it. Additionally, I feel I now have a better understanding of some of the dynamics that keep Camp 2 as influential as it is.
For me, the most impressive aspect of this presentation is the fervent dedication exhibited by both of you ā to trying to understand the truth. I am also impressed by the grace and dignity with which you grapple with the flabbergasting issue of resistance to the truth that manifests among so many people. In these respects, I find you inspiring! Thanks again! Best wishes, P.A.
P.S. for David: At 2:19:16, you exclaim, āYou know, can I do everything at once? I canāt.ā Your facial expressions: priceless! I played that segment again and again, enjoying it tremendously. If you ever decide to get into showbiz, please take my advice: include that segment in any ādemo reelā you create to send around to talent agents and casting directors!
Congratulations for this, Mr. Revisionist. Did you think, as I did, that David Hughes is shying away from really scrutinizing Catherine Austin Fitts, who seems to be playing some kind of game here that suggests, to me at least, that she is what David characterizes as Camp 2? Her people belong to the American courtier class who have flourished from their close relationship with the Rockefellers. Just look at who her grandparents were. She seems to be justifying a decision that the authorities have taken to keep mum about "breakthrough technology" in the public interest lest it fall into the hands of criminals. Well, it already is in the hands of criminals, isn't it? That is surely what 9/11 shows.
By the way, if anyone is interested in Austin Fitt's family background, all you need do is key in "Catherine Austin Fitts was previously married to Geoffrey K. Hurley" as I did on Duck Duck Go and, among the hits, will be a site named "Rattibha" which will provide an interesting dossier.
With all that's going on and my limited bandwidth, I *need* to outsource some thinking, but then I want to be able to cancel the contracts if something goes wrong. That's what I (halfway) trusted some legacy media to do for me before "Covid", but now the DIY task is too much for me and probably others as well.
For example cold fusion etc.
If the Smith-Mundt "modernization" act were reversed and Google and their like were subject to antitrust law it would be a good start.
A pipe dream I had was to make an ontology for the Omniwar that was in linked data that was open source and could be copied and forked and branches of it could be argued about instead of ad hominem'ing. I was just doing it by myself and that got pretty lonely. If the tech crowd knew more about the Omniwar then that kind of thing might happen someday.
The whole Israel connection and everyone losing their minds over it, is a wonderful distraction for the intellectually lazy.
The narrative was put into play and promoted to keep people from realising the US Military industrial Complexās involvement in the events on 9/11 and especially the black-ops technology involved.
Do you think the perps in the US MIC, that planned 9/11, just forgot to plan a cover-up?
Now ask yourself the question - What would that cover-up look like?
Letās address some of the disinformation pertaining to the āIsraelisā.
Let's start with the "artists", Gelatin & āthe E-Teamā in the one tower, shall we...
The first part discusses the psyop and the second part, is where the artist talks about the boxes.
The boxes were given to them for free, where they illegally built the balcony out of the tower windowā¦.
BB-18 is a power distribution bus for electrical fuses, as in the fuse box that electricity goes through in a house or building, to prevent short-circuits.
They're produced by the Littelfuse company. It's not a bomb fuse, LOL.
So, you need to be open to the idea that those boxes were given to them to push the explosive narrativeā¦
Rebekah Roth pushed a lot of that bullshit with her fictional books, but I am not sure whether someone started it before her.
She was later ousted as a possible government spook in 2015.
911 Revisionist deleted a link about an interpretation of the Charlie Kirk events that I posted in his comments. As I see it, Charlie Kirk is a psyop. My comment there was relevant because 911 Revisionist's post praised Charlie Kirk. David, do you have an opinion on Charlie Kirk?
I don't have a research department to verify scientific claims like cold fusion, but I do learn a lot when the fur flies. I unsubscribed from 911 Revisionist, not for his opinion on Charlie Kirk, but for deleting my comment.
Personally, if he was a psyop or not, a person in the public domain that gets taken out for his opinion is an attack on freedom of speech.
There was A LOT of Charlie's opinions I did not subscribe to, especially with him still believing the government's official narrative of the events of 9/11.
However, my substack is focussed on 9/11 related content and that is why I deleted your comment, as it had no relevance to the discussion at hand.
So, if you had an issue with me deleting your comment, why not leave another comment on the article, questioning me about it, but now you run around posting about it on other interviews with me? It's a bit of a woke approach, isn't it?
Then, with regards to cold fusion, you don't need a research department, you just need a few hours of reading aka research, and watch the odd documentary about it.
My research suggestions;
1. The book: Fire from Ice by Eugene Mallove
2. The documentary: Heavywatergate - The war against cold fusion
"a person in the public domain that gets taken out"
Thats just it, the taking out was fake, a malicious fraud on the public, intended to incite *real* violence, a *psyop* perpetrated by the deep state, intended to twist and ultimately prevent free speech.
"So, if you had an issue with me deleting your comment, why not leave another comment on the article"
āWhy would I go back for more of the same?ā - It wouldnāt be, as you saw - I explained to you above your comment was irrelevant to the 9/11 discussion.
But asking me why I deleted a comment is relevant.
"Americans must reject complacency, demand transparency, and prepare for the possibility that this was not just a lone gunmanābut a staged event in the globalistsā war on freedom."
Unraveling the web of deception: Charlie Kirkās assassin and the FBIās false flag
You won't change his mind with truths. He'll do his best to unwittingly prove your point, though. Then delete your comment or call you a retard whilst he pastes posts he did not even come up with himself (let alone digest properly) then pretend to himself he's a genius.
Asked me what about weapons contractors, ground zero clean up crews and insider trading. All of which had a distinctly kosher element if not outright executive leadership... Started namecalling then two hours later posted an interview on his page by Max Igan referencing Israili control of America... Which he appears to have deleted since. Just as he will do with this comment.
The Vladimir Lenin quote he pasted applies to gatekeepers like himself. Don't waste your time and energy debating these people. They are there to redirect you from the truth. He is a part of the very intelligence apparatus and network he seeks to defend. That's why he deleted your Charlie Kirk post. It is obvious to anyone paying attention who killed him and why.
My comment stated "dismissing the Jewish element is obfuscation of the truth." The first video you sent states "In no way am I trying to to downplay the role played by Israel in the attacks."
The whole Israel connection and everyone losing their minds over it, is a wonderful distraction for the intellectually lazy.
The narrative was put into play and promoted to keep people from realising the US Military industrial Complexās involvement in the events on 9/11 and especially the black-ops technology involved.
Letās address some of the disinformation pertaining to the āIsraelisā.
Let's start with the "artists", Gelatin & āthe E-Teamā in the one tower, shall we...
The first part discusses the psyop and the second part, is where the artist talks about the boxes.
The boxes were given to them for free, where they illegally built the balcony out of the tower windowā¦.
BB-18 is a power distribution bus for electrical fuses, as in the fuse box that electricity goes through in a house or building, to prevent short-circuits.
They're produced by the Littelfuse company. It's not a bomb fuse, LOL.
So, you need to be open to the idea that those boxes were given to them to push the explosive narrativeā¦
Rebekah Roth pushed a lot of that bullshit with her fictional books, but I am not sure whether someone started it before her.
She was later ousted as a possible government spook in 2015.
Copying and pasting stuff is lazy.. especially when the first video you pasted proves my point.
The first rumble video clearly states "I am not downplaying the Israeli role in the crimes."
This is obviously intended obfuscation on your part. Anybody with half a functioning braincell knows who was ultimately responsible, and who benefitted the most. They were arguably the only beneficiaries. I hope they paid you handsomely.
What about the insider trading, the clean-up crews atGround Zero, the US MIC weapons contractors and their shareholders that made a financial killing, during a FAKE 20 year long war on āterror.ā
You really are shortsighted, when it comes to the power play, and the bigger picture, which was 9/11.
No, not obfuscation. Waking people up to the reality of the US MICās involvement.
ā9/11 was an inside job,ā or "dem djoos did it", is scientifically speaking, no different from the chant that ā19 bad guys with box cutters did it".
9/11 Truth Suppression Timeline
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin
Thank you for the conversation;
Join us in "Camp 3" on September 11, 2025, to hear the real story of what happened on 9/11.
1 PM PST / 3 PM CST / 4 PM EST / 10 PM CAT / 21:00 GMT (UK)
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z-OrtI-rzI
- Dr Morgan Reynolds (Sued NIST for science fraud in 2007, canceled by the 9/11 truth movement)
- Matthew Naus (Ex-Richard Gage events organiser)
- Adam Eisenberg (PentaCON whistle-blower)
- Mark Conlon aka 9/11 Planes Research
- Keith (NPNK)
- MES (Host and 9/11 researcher)
- Me ā 9/11 Revisionist.
A great discussion, thank you both.
Thanks, Howard.
The truth is always worth defending, even when the battle has been going on for nearly a quarter of a century.
Thank you, gentlemen, for this very worthwhile presentation! Some of the information was new to me, and Iām glad to have learned it. Additionally, I feel I now have a better understanding of some of the dynamics that keep Camp 2 as influential as it is.
For me, the most impressive aspect of this presentation is the fervent dedication exhibited by both of you ā to trying to understand the truth. I am also impressed by the grace and dignity with which you grapple with the flabbergasting issue of resistance to the truth that manifests among so many people. In these respects, I find you inspiring! Thanks again! Best wishes, P.A.
P.S. for David: At 2:19:16, you exclaim, āYou know, can I do everything at once? I canāt.ā Your facial expressions: priceless! I played that segment again and again, enjoying it tremendously. If you ever decide to get into showbiz, please take my advice: include that segment in any ādemo reelā you create to send around to talent agents and casting directors!
Haha, brilliant!
Show business, along with the law, is the very last field I ever saw myself getting into!
Ironically, my wife tells me I would have been a fantastic lawyer, and you think I have show business potential!
I wonder what the other me is doing in a parallel universe....?
I created a short clip for you - https://substack.com/profile/27285138-911-revisionist/note/c-155816940
Ha-ha-ha! Thanks very much!
Congratulations for this, Mr. Revisionist. Did you think, as I did, that David Hughes is shying away from really scrutinizing Catherine Austin Fitts, who seems to be playing some kind of game here that suggests, to me at least, that she is what David characterizes as Camp 2? Her people belong to the American courtier class who have flourished from their close relationship with the Rockefellers. Just look at who her grandparents were. She seems to be justifying a decision that the authorities have taken to keep mum about "breakthrough technology" in the public interest lest it fall into the hands of criminals. Well, it already is in the hands of criminals, isn't it? That is surely what 9/11 shows.
Indeed, I find it very strange that Catherine Fitts does not hold Dr Wood's evidence in high regards, as the evidence presented is irrefutable.
Catherine Austin Fitts & Breakthrough Energy
Weaponized Breakthrough Energy has been deployed, but no one wants to talk about it
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/catherine-austin-fitts-and-breakthrough
By the way, if anyone is interested in Austin Fitt's family background, all you need do is key in "Catherine Austin Fitts was previously married to Geoffrey K. Hurley" as I did on Duck Duck Go and, among the hits, will be a site named "Rattibha" which will provide an interesting dossier.
Great videos guys! Respect and much love.
With all that's going on and my limited bandwidth, I *need* to outsource some thinking, but then I want to be able to cancel the contracts if something goes wrong. That's what I (halfway) trusted some legacy media to do for me before "Covid", but now the DIY task is too much for me and probably others as well.
For example cold fusion etc.
If the Smith-Mundt "modernization" act were reversed and Google and their like were subject to antitrust law it would be a good start.
would be great if subs tack would issue "camp 3" badges š
1933 Cliff Edwards - Itās Only A Paper Moon
https://youtu.be/vpxhuYRvsT0
A pipe dream I had was to make an ontology for the Omniwar that was in linked data that was open source and could be copied and forked and branches of it could be argued about instead of ad hominem'ing. I was just doing it by myself and that got pretty lonely. If the tech crowd knew more about the Omniwar then that kind of thing might happen someday.
An Excellent Ontology for Omniwar
https://tomg2021.substack.com/p/an-excellent-ontology-for-omniwar
Great show, but dismissing the jewish element is obfuscation of the truth, whether intended or not.
The whole Israel connection and everyone losing their minds over it, is a wonderful distraction for the intellectually lazy.
The narrative was put into play and promoted to keep people from realising the US Military industrial Complexās involvement in the events on 9/11 and especially the black-ops technology involved.
Do you think the perps in the US MIC, that planned 9/11, just forgot to plan a cover-up?
Now ask yourself the question - What would that cover-up look like?
Letās address some of the disinformation pertaining to the āIsraelisā.
Let's start with the "artists", Gelatin & āthe E-Teamā in the one tower, shall we...
Were they Israeli, or Austrian?
Watch the video below, before reading furtherā¦.
Rumble link: https://rumble.com/v659g91-the-artists-gelatin-and-the-e-team.html
The first part discusses the psyop and the second part, is where the artist talks about the boxes.
The boxes were given to them for free, where they illegally built the balcony out of the tower windowā¦.
BB-18 is a power distribution bus for electrical fuses, as in the fuse box that electricity goes through in a house or building, to prevent short-circuits.
They're produced by the Littelfuse company. It's not a bomb fuse, LOL.
So, you need to be open to the idea that those boxes were given to them to push the explosive narrativeā¦
Rebekah Roth pushed a lot of that bullshit with her fictional books, but I am not sure whether someone started it before her.
She was later ousted as a possible government spook in 2015.
Listen to this: https://rumble.com/v6u4d7h-exposed-rebekah-roths-methodical-illusion.html
There is truth in that there was some foreknowledge by some, but the conspiracy theory that no Jews died on 9/11, is just that - A conspiracy theory.
Watch: 9/11 Alchemy - Facing Reality
Rumble Link: https://rumble.com/v42pr22-911-alchemy-facing-reality.html
YouTube Link: https://youtu.be/CrzNeZUp0tU
911 Revisionist deleted a link about an interpretation of the Charlie Kirk events that I posted in his comments. As I see it, Charlie Kirk is a psyop. My comment there was relevant because 911 Revisionist's post praised Charlie Kirk. David, do you have an opinion on Charlie Kirk?
Why is Meryl Nass praising Charlie Kirk?
https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/fake-fake-fake-ok-charlie-kirk-and/comment/154795419
I don't have a research department to verify scientific claims like cold fusion, but I do learn a lot when the fur flies. I unsubscribed from 911 Revisionist, not for his opinion on Charlie Kirk, but for deleting my comment.
It is just an in memoriam in my article, due to the US host of the Real Deal mentioned him.
Interview and article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/read-deal-media-hosts-911-revisionist
Personally, if he was a psyop or not, a person in the public domain that gets taken out for his opinion is an attack on freedom of speech.
There was A LOT of Charlie's opinions I did not subscribe to, especially with him still believing the government's official narrative of the events of 9/11.
Read my critique here: https://x.com/911Revisionist/status/1958993879258038782
However, my substack is focussed on 9/11 related content and that is why I deleted your comment, as it had no relevance to the discussion at hand.
So, if you had an issue with me deleting your comment, why not leave another comment on the article, questioning me about it, but now you run around posting about it on other interviews with me? It's a bit of a woke approach, isn't it?
Then, with regards to cold fusion, you don't need a research department, you just need a few hours of reading aka research, and watch the odd documentary about it.
My research suggestions;
1. The book: Fire from Ice by Eugene Mallove
2. The documentary: Heavywatergate - The war against cold fusion
3. 60 Minutes on YT - Cold Fusin is hot again
"a person in the public domain that gets taken out"
Thats just it, the taking out was fake, a malicious fraud on the public, intended to incite *real* violence, a *psyop* perpetrated by the deep state, intended to twist and ultimately prevent free speech.
"So, if you had an issue with me deleting your comment, why not leave another comment on the article"
Why would I go back for more of the same?
I have yet to investigate the alleged shooting.
āWhy would I go back for more of the same?ā - It wouldnāt be, as you saw - I explained to you above your comment was irrelevant to the 9/11 discussion.
But asking me why I deleted a comment is relevant.
That is the end of todayās lesson.
homework assignment:
Outrage erupts after Amazon sells book about Charlie Kirk's assassination HOURS after the shooting
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15093069/Amazon-sells-book-Charlie-Kirks-assassination.html
The Charlie Kirk Shooting, Brought to You By the Number 33
Wake up, people.
https://anthonycolpo.substack.com/p/the-charlie-kirk-shooting-brought
"Americans must reject complacency, demand transparency, and prepare for the possibility that this was not just a lone gunmanābut a staged event in the globalistsā war on freedom."
Unraveling the web of deception: Charlie Kirkās assassin and the FBIās false flag
https://www.naturalnews.com/2025-09-15-charlie-kirk-assassin-and-fbi-false-flag.html
Now its an official problem=>reaction=>solution, hegelian dialectic operation.
Heeere we go:
Trump endorses āCharlie Kirk Actā to hold media accountable for misinformation
https://www.naturalnews.com/2025-09-15-trump-endorses-charlie-kirk-act-hold-media-accountable.html
The Delingprole comes through! Very few have, to my great disappointment.
https://delingpole.substack.com/p/charlie-kirk-this-time-it-still-isnt/comments#comment-157318085
so you didn't investigate and you deleted a comment on the Reichstag fire:
Former Assistant Secretary of HUD Catherine Fitts: The Kirk Assassination is a PSYOP
"...you're watching a concerted effort to shred the Constitution, & I hate to say it, but the Charlie Kirk assassination was the Reichstag fire"
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/former-assistant-secretary-of-hud
Don't bother, he's hasbara.
You won't change his mind with truths. He'll do his best to unwittingly prove your point, though. Then delete your comment or call you a retard whilst he pastes posts he did not even come up with himself (let alone digest properly) then pretend to himself he's a genius.
Asked me what about weapons contractors, ground zero clean up crews and insider trading. All of which had a distinctly kosher element if not outright executive leadership... Started namecalling then two hours later posted an interview on his page by Max Igan referencing Israili control of America... Which he appears to have deleted since. Just as he will do with this comment.
The Vladimir Lenin quote he pasted applies to gatekeepers like himself. Don't waste your time and energy debating these people. They are there to redirect you from the truth. He is a part of the very intelligence apparatus and network he seeks to defend. That's why he deleted your Charlie Kirk post. It is obvious to anyone paying attention who killed him and why.
Go back to your commanding officer at the 77th brigade and tell him that you've blown your cover and you need a new signon.
So the jews are patsies š¤£
My comment stated "dismissing the Jewish element is obfuscation of the truth." The first video you sent states "In no way am I trying to to downplay the role played by Israel in the attacks."
That's because you can't downplay it.
The whole Israel connection and everyone losing their minds over it, is a wonderful distraction for the intellectually lazy.
The narrative was put into play and promoted to keep people from realising the US Military industrial Complexās involvement in the events on 9/11 and especially the black-ops technology involved.
Letās address some of the disinformation pertaining to the āIsraelisā.
Let's start with the "artists", Gelatin & āthe E-Teamā in the one tower, shall we...
Were they Israeli, or Austrian?
Watch the video below, before reading furtherā¦.
Rumble link: https://rumble.com/v659g91-the-artists-gelatin-and-the-e-team.html
The first part discusses the psyop and the second part, is where the artist talks about the boxes.
The boxes were given to them for free, where they illegally built the balcony out of the tower windowā¦.
BB-18 is a power distribution bus for electrical fuses, as in the fuse box that electricity goes through in a house or building, to prevent short-circuits.
They're produced by the Littelfuse company. It's not a bomb fuse, LOL.
So, you need to be open to the idea that those boxes were given to them to push the explosive narrativeā¦
Rebekah Roth pushed a lot of that bullshit with her fictional books, but I am not sure whether someone started it before her.
She was later ousted as a possible government spook in 2015.
Listen to this: https://rumble.com/v6u4d7h-exposed-rebekah-roths-methodical-illusion.html
There is truth in that there was some foreknowledge by some, but the conspiracy theory that no Jews died on 9/11, is just that - A conspiracy theory.
Watch: 9/11 Alchemy - Facing Reality
Rumble Link: https://rumble.com/v42pr22-911-alchemy-facing-reality.html
YouTube Link: https://youtu.be/CrzNeZUp0tU
Copying and pasting stuff is lazy.. especially when the first video you pasted proves my point.
The first rumble video clearly states "I am not downplaying the Israeli role in the crimes."
This is obviously intended obfuscation on your part. Anybody with half a functioning braincell knows who was ultimately responsible, and who benefitted the most. They were arguably the only beneficiaries. I hope they paid you handsomely.
You are not to be trusted!!
O, dear God - how much of a retard are you?
Only Israel benefitted? Are you shitting me?
What about the insider trading, the clean-up crews atGround Zero, the US MIC weapons contractors and their shareholders that made a financial killing, during a FAKE 20 year long war on āterror.ā
You really are shortsighted, when it comes to the power play, and the bigger picture, which was 9/11.
No, not obfuscation. Waking people up to the reality of the US MICās involvement.
ā9/11 was an inside job,ā or "dem djoos did it", is scientifically speaking, no different from the chant that ā19 bad guys with box cutters did it".
9/11 Truth Suppression Timeline
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin
Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-truth-suppression-timeline
Keep quoting me jews, shill. š¤£