Thank you — David, Iain and Maryann — for this exceptional and welcome discussion. It was worth sitting up all night to hear it. And I pay special tribute to Iain and David for shining a light into the darkness surrounding this deeply troubling Manchester ‘event’ and the subsequent appalling outcome for independent journalist Richard D Hall.
I share your disappointment of the alternative media’s lack of support for this case. An inexplicable hush has fallen over the very people who should be standing up for Richard.
The bizarre suggestion, by some bastions of the alternative media, that Richard D Hall — a pillar and a pioneer of ‘the Truth Movement’ — is working in cahoots with ‘the Deep State’ to help usher in totalitarianism across our beleaguered land shook me to the core.
Having followed Richard’s meticulous investigations into many disquieting subjects over the last 20 years, I have nothing but respect for his insights and journalistic integrity. Richard has been brave enough to raise issues and ask questions that the legacy media have clearly happily spiked.
In court, Richard unflinchingly, and unsurprisingly, articulated a stunning defence of his intentions around his investigation — as far as he was allowed.
As a life member of UK Column, I have been privileged — though their forums, chatbox and events — to encourage UKC to highlight Richard’s investigations into the Arena event. Other UKC members have also taken UKC to task over their perceived editorial resistance in airing Richard’s crucial and compelling findings. Our efforts are even more urgent since Richard has been forced to delete all his crucial work referencing ‘the Night of the Bang’ from his website.
This outrageous, creeping Lawfare directed against Richard D Hall is a travesty and all of us who say we are for Truth need to stand up beside him.
The alternative media would do well to heed Richard D Hall’s invitation to… ‘believe none of what you hear and question everything you see’.
Hopefully the work that Iain and I have done will encourage more people to investigate and write about the Manchester Arena incident and its chilling implications for a free society.
Very enlightening discussion on a topic with major implications. Thank you all. Indeed, we seem to be under a kind of transnational "mafia rule", implementing a quiet serfdom through the silent "omniwar" David has repeatedly mentioned (and coined). You and Iain should be given a Nobel Prize in Journalism for the detailed and rigorous investigative work you've done here. God bless you both.
David, Iain and Maryann: Congratulations; well done! I was already familiar with the information presented here, but I found it a very worthwhile experience to “take it in” again in the format of an informal conversation.
With regard to studying the Manchester Arena incident (and its aftermath), David and Iain — as academic researcher and investigative journalist, respectively — have given the world work products that reflect probity and high standards of intellectual integrity. Every now and then, in David’s writing, there appears a brief nugget of wry humor, thereby giving readers a short break from the horrors he is conveying to us and fortifying us to read on.
Nevertheless, it seems to me that the bottom line for both these men is to ensure that evidence is documented as objectively as possible. Though they have opinions about this information and share some of those opinions with their audiences, they refrain from “reading into” that information conclusions for which tangible proof is absent. What admirable restraint!
Maryann, on the other hand, has more freedom to express personal feelings in her role as interlocutor (rather than researcher). Her outrage, indignation and incredulity over the absurdity of the “official” narrative is splendid to witness.
I am particularly impressed when, at 35:14, Maryann asks: “ Do most people not just think, wait a minute, there's something very odd here?” During this passage, her facial expressions are priceless!
Iain’s initial reply is: “No.”
The lunacy of what Maryann has just pointed out elicits little chuckles from both Iain and David.
Yes, what the authorities want us to believe is LUNACY!
Why do so many choose to believe such blatant lies — especially when the lies are deeply harmful? I don’t know. But the tendency to do so, apparently, is nothing new.
For me, the situation calls to mind “The Talking Bird, the Singing Tree, and the Golden Water” — a famous tale from The Arabian Nights (see https://bit.ly/3EBLtrH). An emperor of Persia named Kosrouschah has a beloved wife who — over the course of several years — gives birth to three babies. In sequence, he is informed by “authorities” that the queen has given birth to a dog, a cat and a log of wood. He is indignant and deeply saddened.
What the emperor is being told is preposterous nonsense, of course. LUNACY!
Nevertheless, the emperor chooses to believe the “authorities” (who happen to be the queen’s two jealous sisters) and never bothers to examine the primary evidence himself.
Complications ensue, and many years later — when the three children are adults — the truth is revealed and parents and children are happily reunited.
For their duplicity and the harm they have caused, the “authorities” are executed.
God bless all three of you in this presentation! David and Iain give us the facts, and Maryann affirms our own outrage when we ponder the facts.
Here’s hoping that — before it’s too late — the public at large will learn the facts and that the “authorities” will receive their due punishment. Best wishes, P.A.
Thanks Peter, appreciated. Yep Maryann expressed the absurdity of the official narrative really well. It is remarkable that people buy it, but much of that boils down to cognitive dissonance I think.
The facade is dropping in spite of how the media and courts portray it, while they deny evidence and therefore justice in the courts. More and more now know far more about these operations.
Really pleased to see iain and David together in a discussion as two who have have done forensic details on this issue. Such a sensitive issue and for most people even to consider this may not have been what the powers that be told us that is was is a big step. Glad it's still being discussed and hope to see another Richard d Hall video soon. He did a very good update on technocracy not that long ago. It would be such a shame if he wasn't able to broadcast anyone. It's not just alternative media that we need, but it's grass roots too. Richard is a great example, whether you agree with him or not, on how to go from being an engineer to an investigative journalist. And also he walks the walk.
I bet lots of us watching had a few qeuations of our own. I wondered whether it's worth maryann considering reconvening, with some sent in questions from us. Worth keeping the discussion going.
Iain and I will be doing more on Manchester in the next few months. If anyone has any questions they would like answering, please send them to Iain or me and we will do our best to answer them.
Despite losing his case at the high court, Richard made this video. Here he describes the process and legal, financial implications etc of the judgement but that's just an update and goes on to make a very succinct and well presented explanation of global technocracy in his eloquent style https://www.richplanet.net/richp_genre.php?ref=313&part=1&gen=99
An intensely ponderous brilliant piece of work. Thank you. A question that I'm left with that is haunting me as it's reminiscent of the "Sandy Hook" disaster in the United States several years ago, where an investigator took it upon himself to look into whether or not there were actually deaths that were documented burials autopsies, and he could find none. As it applies to the Manchester alleged disaster: what is the evidence that there was any event at all, namely, an explosion? Whatever evidence is there that anyone died or anyone was actually injured by some form of explosion? Finally, what evidence is there that any of the so-called "victims"Families were real I am totally skeptical about everything I hear like this anymore. Finally it seems like such an extraordinary elaborate canard that a deep state/government/entity would go to this extent to cause us fear so that they could "control" us. Perhaps a rhetorical question but I pose it nonetheless.
Death certificates for the 22 were finally issued in 2023, following the end of the Inquiry.
Post-mortems were officially carried but the public has never seen the post-mortem reports.
Funerals did take place. If memory serves, Hall had difficulty in finding information about the funeral for Jane Tweddle, but I haven't dug into the funerals myself. I see no reason why they wouldn't have taken place.
For a relatively small number of witnesses, as I discuss in my series, some horrific injury detail is provided in their testimonies. Some of it is obviously questionable. The public has no way of independently corroborating it.
For the three fatalities who were evacuated, paramedics and hospital staff gave some hard-to-listen-to testimony regarding injuries sustained. The public again has no way of independently corroborating or disproving those testimonies.
The evidence of an explosion having occurred is that the authorities and the legacy media say it occurred. And indeed there was a loud bang, a flash of light, and smoke. Primary empirical evidence, however, contradicts the official claim that a TATP shrapnel bomb having gone off.
When it comes to victims' families, I don't have much to say, as it tends towards speculation. Being charitable, there is no reason to doubt their sincerity, for they may well have believed that their loved ones had been killed.
On the other hand, we do know that they all received hundreds of thousands of pounds from the Manchester Emergency Fund, and, given the many anomalies surrounding the event, one has to keep an open mind.
I agree about the complexity of the operation. Sometimes I wonder whether it would have been easier to resort to "old-fashioned" methods that unquestionably cause carnage and mass death and injuries. But the evidence is what it is, and it points to something different.
I suppose the idea is that if such an operation can successfully be pulled off, narrative control is total: no one will be asking awkward questions forever more. Perhaps that was seen as a goal worth risking such a complex operation for.
But then along came Richard D. Hall and unraveled the whole thing.
Again, forgive my skepticism, David we saw what happened during the Covid slaughter. Death certificates were falsified reflecting COVID-19 as the cause of death even in very suspicious circumstances. Never reflecting use of remdesivir or being placed unnecessarily on a ventilator so that the hospital could bilk tens of thousands of dollars. Certainly never attributing deaths to the vaccines themselves. VAERS data was adulterated. Just reflect upon how the autopsies of JFK and RFK and how the coroner reports were falsified. I could go on and on, but I won't you get the point.
I would add that these death certificates were issued absent any full inquests into any of the deaths. Instead we had, effectively, simulacrums of inquests. Seeing as these were all unnatural deaths, I would certainly question the veracity of any issued death certificates purely on that basis, let alone all the other points raised by Aloe.
I think courage is a spectrum. Some have it coursing through them and are not afraid. I suppose it comes down to don't call yourself something if you're not.
What we all do not have access to is proper independent news. We have 24 hrs propaganda shoved in our faces, even when we switch off it's there in the outside.
The question of false flag events also. Quite a few hmmmm to ponder on
Thank you — David, Iain and Maryann — for this exceptional and welcome discussion. It was worth sitting up all night to hear it. And I pay special tribute to Iain and David for shining a light into the darkness surrounding this deeply troubling Manchester ‘event’ and the subsequent appalling outcome for independent journalist Richard D Hall.
I share your disappointment of the alternative media’s lack of support for this case. An inexplicable hush has fallen over the very people who should be standing up for Richard.
The bizarre suggestion, by some bastions of the alternative media, that Richard D Hall — a pillar and a pioneer of ‘the Truth Movement’ — is working in cahoots with ‘the Deep State’ to help usher in totalitarianism across our beleaguered land shook me to the core.
Having followed Richard’s meticulous investigations into many disquieting subjects over the last 20 years, I have nothing but respect for his insights and journalistic integrity. Richard has been brave enough to raise issues and ask questions that the legacy media have clearly happily spiked.
In court, Richard unflinchingly, and unsurprisingly, articulated a stunning defence of his intentions around his investigation — as far as he was allowed.
As a life member of UK Column, I have been privileged — though their forums, chatbox and events — to encourage UKC to highlight Richard’s investigations into the Arena event. Other UKC members have also taken UKC to task over their perceived editorial resistance in airing Richard’s crucial and compelling findings. Our efforts are even more urgent since Richard has been forced to delete all his crucial work referencing ‘the Night of the Bang’ from his website.
This outrageous, creeping Lawfare directed against Richard D Hall is a travesty and all of us who say we are for Truth need to stand up beside him.
The alternative media would do well to heed Richard D Hall’s invitation to… ‘believe none of what you hear and question everything you see’.
Love and light,
Chrissie Murray
Thanks, Chrissie.
I second all of that.
Hopefully the work that Iain and I have done will encourage more people to investigate and write about the Manchester Arena incident and its chilling implications for a free society.
Very enlightening discussion on a topic with major implications. Thank you all. Indeed, we seem to be under a kind of transnational "mafia rule", implementing a quiet serfdom through the silent "omniwar" David has repeatedly mentioned (and coined). You and Iain should be given a Nobel Prize in Journalism for the detailed and rigorous investigative work you've done here. God bless you both.
Thank you.
You are right - a transnational criminal cartel is in charge, and it needs to be exposed and routed out.
Amen to that. Thanks, David.
David, Iain and Maryann: Congratulations; well done! I was already familiar with the information presented here, but I found it a very worthwhile experience to “take it in” again in the format of an informal conversation.
With regard to studying the Manchester Arena incident (and its aftermath), David and Iain — as academic researcher and investigative journalist, respectively — have given the world work products that reflect probity and high standards of intellectual integrity. Every now and then, in David’s writing, there appears a brief nugget of wry humor, thereby giving readers a short break from the horrors he is conveying to us and fortifying us to read on.
Nevertheless, it seems to me that the bottom line for both these men is to ensure that evidence is documented as objectively as possible. Though they have opinions about this information and share some of those opinions with their audiences, they refrain from “reading into” that information conclusions for which tangible proof is absent. What admirable restraint!
Maryann, on the other hand, has more freedom to express personal feelings in her role as interlocutor (rather than researcher). Her outrage, indignation and incredulity over the absurdity of the “official” narrative is splendid to witness.
I am particularly impressed when, at 35:14, Maryann asks: “ Do most people not just think, wait a minute, there's something very odd here?” During this passage, her facial expressions are priceless!
Iain’s initial reply is: “No.”
The lunacy of what Maryann has just pointed out elicits little chuckles from both Iain and David.
Yes, what the authorities want us to believe is LUNACY!
Why do so many choose to believe such blatant lies — especially when the lies are deeply harmful? I don’t know. But the tendency to do so, apparently, is nothing new.
For me, the situation calls to mind “The Talking Bird, the Singing Tree, and the Golden Water” — a famous tale from The Arabian Nights (see https://bit.ly/3EBLtrH). An emperor of Persia named Kosrouschah has a beloved wife who — over the course of several years — gives birth to three babies. In sequence, he is informed by “authorities” that the queen has given birth to a dog, a cat and a log of wood. He is indignant and deeply saddened.
What the emperor is being told is preposterous nonsense, of course. LUNACY!
Nevertheless, the emperor chooses to believe the “authorities” (who happen to be the queen’s two jealous sisters) and never bothers to examine the primary evidence himself.
Complications ensue, and many years later — when the three children are adults — the truth is revealed and parents and children are happily reunited.
For their duplicity and the harm they have caused, the “authorities” are executed.
God bless all three of you in this presentation! David and Iain give us the facts, and Maryann affirms our own outrage when we ponder the facts.
Here’s hoping that — before it’s too late — the public at large will learn the facts and that the “authorities” will receive their due punishment. Best wishes, P.A.
Thanks Peter, appreciated. Yep Maryann expressed the absurdity of the official narrative really well. It is remarkable that people buy it, but much of that boils down to cognitive dissonance I think.
Thanks, Peter. Powerful stuff.
Fabulous work David and Iain. Don’t miss this subscribers.
Thank you, Iain and I intend to do more on Manchester together in due course.
Hey, when you glean as much as you can from this ….and it is fascinating . you can look into this complete oddity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting
The facade is dropping in spite of how the media and courts portray it, while they deny evidence and therefore justice in the courts. More and more now know far more about these operations.
Thank you David, Iain and Maryann. What more can I add that Chrissie Murray and the others haven't said. I'm sharing this where I can.
Thanks, Richie. The public really needs to understand the significance of this event, so the further this information can travel, the better.
Thanks to you both the spread of this criminal faction isn't given a free pass to grow like a cancer.
Thanks, Gayle. That's precisely the idea.
Really pleased to see iain and David together in a discussion as two who have have done forensic details on this issue. Such a sensitive issue and for most people even to consider this may not have been what the powers that be told us that is was is a big step. Glad it's still being discussed and hope to see another Richard d Hall video soon. He did a very good update on technocracy not that long ago. It would be such a shame if he wasn't able to broadcast anyone. It's not just alternative media that we need, but it's grass roots too. Richard is a great example, whether you agree with him or not, on how to go from being an engineer to an investigative journalist. And also he walks the walk.
I bet lots of us watching had a few qeuations of our own. I wondered whether it's worth maryann considering reconvening, with some sent in questions from us. Worth keeping the discussion going.
Iain and I will be doing more on Manchester in the next few months. If anyone has any questions they would like answering, please send them to Iain or me and we will do our best to answer them.
Yes please do.
Despite losing his case at the high court, Richard made this video. Here he describes the process and legal, financial implications etc of the judgement but that's just an update and goes on to make a very succinct and well presented explanation of global technocracy in his eloquent style https://www.richplanet.net/richp_genre.php?ref=313&part=1&gen=99
#bringbacktheshittybluefleece
An intensely ponderous brilliant piece of work. Thank you. A question that I'm left with that is haunting me as it's reminiscent of the "Sandy Hook" disaster in the United States several years ago, where an investigator took it upon himself to look into whether or not there were actually deaths that were documented burials autopsies, and he could find none. As it applies to the Manchester alleged disaster: what is the evidence that there was any event at all, namely, an explosion? Whatever evidence is there that anyone died or anyone was actually injured by some form of explosion? Finally, what evidence is there that any of the so-called "victims"Families were real I am totally skeptical about everything I hear like this anymore. Finally it seems like such an extraordinary elaborate canard that a deep state/government/entity would go to this extent to cause us fear so that they could "control" us. Perhaps a rhetorical question but I pose it nonetheless.
All good and sensible questions.
Death certificates for the 22 were finally issued in 2023, following the end of the Inquiry.
Post-mortems were officially carried but the public has never seen the post-mortem reports.
Funerals did take place. If memory serves, Hall had difficulty in finding information about the funeral for Jane Tweddle, but I haven't dug into the funerals myself. I see no reason why they wouldn't have taken place.
For a relatively small number of witnesses, as I discuss in my series, some horrific injury detail is provided in their testimonies. Some of it is obviously questionable. The public has no way of independently corroborating it.
For the three fatalities who were evacuated, paramedics and hospital staff gave some hard-to-listen-to testimony regarding injuries sustained. The public again has no way of independently corroborating or disproving those testimonies.
The evidence of an explosion having occurred is that the authorities and the legacy media say it occurred. And indeed there was a loud bang, a flash of light, and smoke. Primary empirical evidence, however, contradicts the official claim that a TATP shrapnel bomb having gone off.
When it comes to victims' families, I don't have much to say, as it tends towards speculation. Being charitable, there is no reason to doubt their sincerity, for they may well have believed that their loved ones had been killed.
On the other hand, we do know that they all received hundreds of thousands of pounds from the Manchester Emergency Fund, and, given the many anomalies surrounding the event, one has to keep an open mind.
I agree about the complexity of the operation. Sometimes I wonder whether it would have been easier to resort to "old-fashioned" methods that unquestionably cause carnage and mass death and injuries. But the evidence is what it is, and it points to something different.
I suppose the idea is that if such an operation can successfully be pulled off, narrative control is total: no one will be asking awkward questions forever more. Perhaps that was seen as a goal worth risking such a complex operation for.
But then along came Richard D. Hall and unraveled the whole thing.
Again, forgive my skepticism, David we saw what happened during the Covid slaughter. Death certificates were falsified reflecting COVID-19 as the cause of death even in very suspicious circumstances. Never reflecting use of remdesivir or being placed unnecessarily on a ventilator so that the hospital could bilk tens of thousands of dollars. Certainly never attributing deaths to the vaccines themselves. VAERS data was adulterated. Just reflect upon how the autopsies of JFK and RFK and how the coroner reports were falsified. I could go on and on, but I won't you get the point.
Well, yes, I agree.
I never said that the issuance of 22 death certificates proves that 22 people were killed by a TATP shrapnel bomb detonated by an Islamist terrorist.
You asked what evidence is out there. Death certificates are official evidence. It doesn't mean they are compelling evidence.
I would add that these death certificates were issued absent any full inquests into any of the deaths. Instead we had, effectively, simulacrums of inquests. Seeing as these were all unnatural deaths, I would certainly question the veracity of any issued death certificates purely on that basis, let alone all the other points raised by Aloe.
I think courage is a spectrum. Some have it coursing through them and are not afraid. I suppose it comes down to don't call yourself something if you're not.
What we all do not have access to is proper independent news. We have 24 hrs propaganda shoved in our faces, even when we switch off it's there in the outside.
The question of false flag events also. Quite a few hmmmm to ponder on