For all the reasons cited in this article (as well as the analysis of the event presented in previous installments of this series), it seems to me that the purported victims of the “bombing” are being propped up by the authorities (and their media lapdogs) like cardboard cut-outs. For my sensibilities, this smacks of disrespect for these people’s basic humanness — as well as the basic humanness of the public at large.
So — for a thinking person — asking questions about these people and where their bodies were allegedly found makes sense.
In my opinion, this article does so with both dignity and sensitivity.
This is the issue I am trying to expose by posting on the chats of the world’s smartest people like you. Isn’t it the Israeli’s who are breaking the ceasefire like they have done for the last 100 years. @DonaldTrump’s tough talk would be laudatory if he had honest intelligence about the real facts on the ground. Could somebody get the message to him that there is an abundence of evidence suggesting that Israel US UK NATO power configuration made October 7 happen just like they made 9/11 happen so that they could occupy the Middle East as they planned to in documents like the Clean Break document of the Project for a New American Century. Why hasn’t Trump or Congress or the American people been shown the honest intelligence about #Israel criminal state actors like #Netahyahu and #RafiEitan and #JonathanPollard and #RobertMaxwell plans to put a Trojan horse version of the PROMIS software (now Palantir and SWIFT and Pegasus and ECHELON and PRISM and Systematics now AllTel) into the DNA of the Internet platform itself so that they have #total_information_awareness”on us as if we are all terrorists which in the eyes of a Fascist invisible empire, we are in that we are a threat to them if we can expose their big lies and treasonous plot to occupy and destroy our world. We are literally at the stage where the Globalist Coup D’Etat is now public and the fate of the earth depends on the whims of their new Luciferian puppet presidents starting with @DonaldTrump @BenjaminNetanyahu and @KingCharles and it is up to us to overthrow them with non-violent grand jury process. What do others think?
I will go to the top and read it all. I think because to the “total information awareness” level of global news censorship, the average American doesn’t know anything about what you are referring to.
I’m currently working my way through this great series of articles. this event always been on my false flag list. I watch all I can when one of ‘these’ occur - first question I ask myself is - if in following days, we are taken to war (historically), or have some piece of our freedom removed (currently). Then it is more than likely one of ‘these’
I knew most of what said within articles from work of others especially Richard D Hall - but wonderfully done so far
Your work in total is brilliant! One of the few who dare stick their heads above the parapet & deserve respect just on doing so. I’m more thrilled you see it all - some sensible people turn away when see demonic side of it all.
I’m an older person & have followed most (if not all) of these ‘events’. I have watched how fake terrorism attacks have changed (evolved?) over the years - from killing innocent folks en masse - (9/11 being the Hollywood A movie) to achieve required result to these days managing a much smaller situation to achieve same end (Manchester falling into the B movie production - take out the human element & it is laughable how badly ‘done’ it is). It is not alone unfortunately.
Southport - serious doubts but as an older person technology has moved quicker than I have, so it gets harder to pick the fact from the fiction - the fact that technology (speaking as an older person, no less stupid than I ever was & not fortunately having any mind impairing diseases) is harder & harder to find your way around makes finding your way anywhere - other than a Google friendly page it would rather I look at - difficult. With Southport I know nothing I’ll admit other than what the telebox wants me to see - however the pattern is the same so I highly expect to see in not too distant future a different tale.
Back in the day said innocents were just killed that was it job done - these days, I’m struggling to work out what ‘actually’ happened to the people we are told, died. Clearly with Manchester (& the like) people died 22 of them here, actual evidence supports them NOT dying here (same for the like).
Are they then alive or in fact dead?
Alive would suggest an awful lot of secrets kept by an awful lot of people. To many for me - what if working on this premise - one were to grow a conscience for instance.
Money can do a lot of things I’ve found but surely giving up a child for it is another thing my mind won’t have - but life has yet to surprise me
Is it just a case of a recent death is hijacked & relocated to be officially within one of these events?
I recently met an old friend I’d lost touch with - he tells me he knew 2 of the victims. I have no reason to doubt him he worked with one of them. I soon realised that what he told me about them I mostly already knew & I didn’t know them kind of thing so I think while they did work together everything else he told me had been learned because of the interest the employer would of had in following days to event - just my opinion. I’ve never met anyone who knew a ‘victim’ before. I was tactful when it became clear he would hear nothing other than the official line.
But he did mention the father circulated a photo of parents & their children to some colleagues that night pre concert - mentioned due to gravity of photo. I haven’t seen said photo so could be myth, however if truth then it shortens the pair’s time of demise somewhat if premise above correct.
I’m baffled how it could of been arranged given the links between children/relatives etc
The simple fact is, we don't know what happened to the named victims. Funerals were held for at least 21 of them (Hall couldn't find evidence for Jane Tweddle), but that doesn't prove anything.
Different things may have happened to different named victims. Hall's take on it was that some may already have died and their deaths were "repackaged," while others may have been given new identities and relocated under a witness protection scheme.
When Hall visited the areas the named victims were from, it was one site of social deprivation after another. If the authorities had dirt on any of these families, it would not have been hard to offer a choice of prison or a handsome reward/new life.
All very dark to contemplate, but unfortunately we have to ask the questions, given the available evidence.
Re: the pre-concert photo you mention, Martin Hibbert tweeted a pre-concert photo of him and his daughter at a restaurant half a mile away. That does not prove that they attended the concert on the night, however.
You will see in subsequent parts of my series that very few of the named victims and survivors can be seen on publicly available CCTV imagery released by the Inquiry. Some of them were provably there that night, but for most of them, there is disturbingly little hard evidence proving they attended the concert.
David, this is not directly related to your post, which I am still reading, but I think may be relevant to the whole treatment of Richard Hall’s evidence. I have been looking into the 7/7 London bombing event for which an investigative film maker, John Hill proposed an alternative theory of events vs the government narrative in a similar way to Hall. He made the following film: https://odysee.com/@Act4YourFreedom:e/the-ripple-effect-2:e
This version was compared to the gov. narrative contained in a BBC response to rebut Hill’s film by applying three differing theories of truth. I am not aware if this has been done with the Manchester Arena event but it struck me that the same approach might be applicable.
One conclusion I am leaning towards is that the official account is largely coherent (internally consistent), but does not correspond to the primary empirical evidence in certain key respects.
To be honest, the deeper I dig, the more puzzling I find it.
I’ve now read your article and watched the BBC documentary. Well done in finding that btw and doing this complex analysis of the evidence. I was not aware of the existence of the BBC film on the archive files. This piece of film making is in itself is very telling. It is very carefully scripted to deliver an emotional message above all. The use of child actors who show remarkable composure and level of detail recall of events is very carefully done with words, lighting and music to trigger emotions in the viewer. This is really a piece of almost Hollywood style acting throughout. Yet there are some surprising inconsistencies revealed in these witness statements. For example we hear one of the young girls, if I recall correctly saying there was blood and pieces of flesh all over the foyer and big holes in the floor. Nothing to corroborate this in the Barr footage obviously and even in the BBC footage. Did they blur out the ‘holes’ as well as bodies? That is a bit of a stretch. Obviously there were no holes in the floor.
Also, concerning the bomber, we hear one witness say he threw down his rucksack and ran away from the scene while another (policeman I think) says his body was blown into two parts. I wonder why they would create such a glaring inconsistency in their own narrative. Is it perhaps to invite ‘conspiracy investigators’ to find these anomalies so that they can identify and neutralise them as they are trying to do with Richard Hall.
Right at the end of the film we have this young girl telling us how her parents took her home and washed pieces of human flesh out of her hair in sufficient amount that they clogged op the bath drain plug. This is really laying on the horror, it’s the final message in a terror horror movie. It’s very very manipulative propaganda I feel.
I find it quite incredible that the official narrative has any legs to stand on at all.
I spent a couple of awful hours late last night picking my way through the BBC programme in detail.
One motif at the start and finish is adolescent girls brushing their long hair. We see that multiple times. This is deliberately juxtaposed to the grotesque and highly unlikely image of human body parts (including a finger) in the girls' hair.
It really is some of the sickest propaganda I have come across.
Most of the girls featured will have come of age by now. I wonder how they will feel, as adults, about having been manipulated in this way as children?
Oh, btw I’ve send the archive link for the BBC production to Pighooey. She was very please to get this having not seen it. There some video frames in these of the area where they evacuated the casualties which I think might help her with the Getty images she found. I could see they are taken from the same angle.
For all the reasons cited in this article (as well as the analysis of the event presented in previous installments of this series), it seems to me that the purported victims of the “bombing” are being propped up by the authorities (and their media lapdogs) like cardboard cut-outs. For my sensibilities, this smacks of disrespect for these people’s basic humanness — as well as the basic humanness of the public at large.
So — for a thinking person — asking questions about these people and where their bodies were allegedly found makes sense.
In my opinion, this article does so with both dignity and sensitivity.
This is the issue I am trying to expose by posting on the chats of the world’s smartest people like you. Isn’t it the Israeli’s who are breaking the ceasefire like they have done for the last 100 years. @DonaldTrump’s tough talk would be laudatory if he had honest intelligence about the real facts on the ground. Could somebody get the message to him that there is an abundence of evidence suggesting that Israel US UK NATO power configuration made October 7 happen just like they made 9/11 happen so that they could occupy the Middle East as they planned to in documents like the Clean Break document of the Project for a New American Century. Why hasn’t Trump or Congress or the American people been shown the honest intelligence about #Israel criminal state actors like #Netahyahu and #RafiEitan and #JonathanPollard and #RobertMaxwell plans to put a Trojan horse version of the PROMIS software (now Palantir and SWIFT and Pegasus and ECHELON and PRISM and Systematics now AllTel) into the DNA of the Internet platform itself so that they have #total_information_awareness”on us as if we are all terrorists which in the eyes of a Fascist invisible empire, we are in that we are a threat to them if we can expose their big lies and treasonous plot to occupy and destroy our world. We are literally at the stage where the Globalist Coup D’Etat is now public and the fate of the earth depends on the whims of their new Luciferian puppet presidents starting with @DonaldTrump @BenjaminNetanyahu and @KingCharles and it is up to us to overthrow them with non-violent grand jury process. What do others think?
https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1889088749344293294?s=42&t=EFQ7Jxu07RHzwSyHxf7EZA
I am not aware of any Israeli involvement in the Manchester Arena incident of 2017. Are you?
I will go to the top and read it all. I think because to the “total information awareness” level of global news censorship, the average American doesn’t know anything about what you are referring to.
I’m currently working my way through this great series of articles. this event always been on my false flag list. I watch all I can when one of ‘these’ occur - first question I ask myself is - if in following days, we are taken to war (historically), or have some piece of our freedom removed (currently). Then it is more than likely one of ‘these’
I knew most of what said within articles from work of others especially Richard D Hall - but wonderfully done so far
Your work in total is brilliant! One of the few who dare stick their heads above the parapet & deserve respect just on doing so. I’m more thrilled you see it all - some sensible people turn away when see demonic side of it all.
I’m an older person & have followed most (if not all) of these ‘events’. I have watched how fake terrorism attacks have changed (evolved?) over the years - from killing innocent folks en masse - (9/11 being the Hollywood A movie) to achieve required result to these days managing a much smaller situation to achieve same end (Manchester falling into the B movie production - take out the human element & it is laughable how badly ‘done’ it is). It is not alone unfortunately.
Southport - serious doubts but as an older person technology has moved quicker than I have, so it gets harder to pick the fact from the fiction - the fact that technology (speaking as an older person, no less stupid than I ever was & not fortunately having any mind impairing diseases) is harder & harder to find your way around makes finding your way anywhere - other than a Google friendly page it would rather I look at - difficult. With Southport I know nothing I’ll admit other than what the telebox wants me to see - however the pattern is the same so I highly expect to see in not too distant future a different tale.
Back in the day said innocents were just killed that was it job done - these days, I’m struggling to work out what ‘actually’ happened to the people we are told, died. Clearly with Manchester (& the like) people died 22 of them here, actual evidence supports them NOT dying here (same for the like).
Are they then alive or in fact dead?
Alive would suggest an awful lot of secrets kept by an awful lot of people. To many for me - what if working on this premise - one were to grow a conscience for instance.
Money can do a lot of things I’ve found but surely giving up a child for it is another thing my mind won’t have - but life has yet to surprise me
Is it just a case of a recent death is hijacked & relocated to be officially within one of these events?
I recently met an old friend I’d lost touch with - he tells me he knew 2 of the victims. I have no reason to doubt him he worked with one of them. I soon realised that what he told me about them I mostly already knew & I didn’t know them kind of thing so I think while they did work together everything else he told me had been learned because of the interest the employer would of had in following days to event - just my opinion. I’ve never met anyone who knew a ‘victim’ before. I was tactful when it became clear he would hear nothing other than the official line.
But he did mention the father circulated a photo of parents & their children to some colleagues that night pre concert - mentioned due to gravity of photo. I haven’t seen said photo so could be myth, however if truth then it shortens the pair’s time of demise somewhat if premise above correct.
I’m baffled how it could of been arranged given the links between children/relatives etc
The question haunts me
If you got to end - thank you for taking the time
Thanks, Dotty.
I like your "B movie" analogy.
The simple fact is, we don't know what happened to the named victims. Funerals were held for at least 21 of them (Hall couldn't find evidence for Jane Tweddle), but that doesn't prove anything.
Different things may have happened to different named victims. Hall's take on it was that some may already have died and their deaths were "repackaged," while others may have been given new identities and relocated under a witness protection scheme.
When Hall visited the areas the named victims were from, it was one site of social deprivation after another. If the authorities had dirt on any of these families, it would not have been hard to offer a choice of prison or a handsome reward/new life.
All very dark to contemplate, but unfortunately we have to ask the questions, given the available evidence.
Re: the pre-concert photo you mention, Martin Hibbert tweeted a pre-concert photo of him and his daughter at a restaurant half a mile away. That does not prove that they attended the concert on the night, however.
You will see in subsequent parts of my series that very few of the named victims and survivors can be seen on publicly available CCTV imagery released by the Inquiry. Some of them were provably there that night, but for most of them, there is disturbingly little hard evidence proving they attended the concert.
David, this is not directly related to your post, which I am still reading, but I think may be relevant to the whole treatment of Richard Hall’s evidence. I have been looking into the 7/7 London bombing event for which an investigative film maker, John Hill proposed an alternative theory of events vs the government narrative in a similar way to Hall. He made the following film: https://odysee.com/@Act4YourFreedom:e/the-ripple-effect-2:e
This version was compared to the gov. narrative contained in a BBC response to rebut Hill’s film by applying three differing theories of truth. I am not aware if this has been done with the Manchester Arena event but it struck me that the same approach might be applicable.
Here is the report about the approach which I have not seen used before, but maybe you have come across it. https://www.scribd.com/doc/20833633/What-Happened-at-Canary-Wharf-on-7th-July-2005
Thanks, Howard.
One conclusion I am leaning towards is that the official account is largely coherent (internally consistent), but does not correspond to the primary empirical evidence in certain key respects.
To be honest, the deeper I dig, the more puzzling I find it.
I’ve now read your article and watched the BBC documentary. Well done in finding that btw and doing this complex analysis of the evidence. I was not aware of the existence of the BBC film on the archive files. This piece of film making is in itself is very telling. It is very carefully scripted to deliver an emotional message above all. The use of child actors who show remarkable composure and level of detail recall of events is very carefully done with words, lighting and music to trigger emotions in the viewer. This is really a piece of almost Hollywood style acting throughout. Yet there are some surprising inconsistencies revealed in these witness statements. For example we hear one of the young girls, if I recall correctly saying there was blood and pieces of flesh all over the foyer and big holes in the floor. Nothing to corroborate this in the Barr footage obviously and even in the BBC footage. Did they blur out the ‘holes’ as well as bodies? That is a bit of a stretch. Obviously there were no holes in the floor.
Also, concerning the bomber, we hear one witness say he threw down his rucksack and ran away from the scene while another (policeman I think) says his body was blown into two parts. I wonder why they would create such a glaring inconsistency in their own narrative. Is it perhaps to invite ‘conspiracy investigators’ to find these anomalies so that they can identify and neutralise them as they are trying to do with Richard Hall.
Right at the end of the film we have this young girl telling us how her parents took her home and washed pieces of human flesh out of her hair in sufficient amount that they clogged op the bath drain plug. This is really laying on the horror, it’s the final message in a terror horror movie. It’s very very manipulative propaganda I feel.
I find it quite incredible that the official narrative has any legs to stand on at all.
Thanks, Howard.
I spent a couple of awful hours late last night picking my way through the BBC programme in detail.
One motif at the start and finish is adolescent girls brushing their long hair. We see that multiple times. This is deliberately juxtaposed to the grotesque and highly unlikely image of human body parts (including a finger) in the girls' hair.
It really is some of the sickest propaganda I have come across.
Most of the girls featured will have come of age by now. I wonder how they will feel, as adults, about having been manipulated in this way as children?
Oh, btw I’ve send the archive link for the BBC production to Pighooey. She was very please to get this having not seen it. There some video frames in these of the area where they evacuated the casualties which I think might help her with the Getty images she found. I could see they are taken from the same angle.