Interview with Paul Hellier, July 22, 2025, Part 1

Many thanks to Paul Hellier of Fair Food Forager, for having me back on his podcast. This is Part 1 of 2. In a wide-ranging discussion, we got into:

• the general lack of interest in the Manchester Arena incident, despite its immense political signifiance;

• why most people seem to be unaware of, or disinterested in, the means by which it is being herded towards tyranny;

• how the Omniwar remains invisible;

• the three camps of awareness and algorithmic kettling;

• the false binaries that keep people trapped in Camp 2;

• the illusion of Trump as a saviour figure, as exposed by his first few months of his second term in office and the technocratic takeover of the United States;

• GovCorp/GovTech and the AI-powered digital state;

• mechanisms of deception used to trick the population into supporting measures that lead to its subjugation and ultimate enslavement;

• the two-party delusion;

• rising wealth inequalities globally;

• an all-digital financial system as a totalitarian control system;

• Aman Jabbi and the digitial surveillance system maturing all around us;

• the inescapability of a wireless (bio)digital control system;

• the 9/11 Memorial Museum as an exercise in mind control and occultism;

• televisual propaganda and trauma-based mind control;

• trauma bonding and people’s mistaken belief that the government was trying to “protect” them during Covid;

• the global class war being waged via the transnational deep state;

• the failure of the political class to serve and protect the public;

• Echoes of the Third Reich;

• the term “conspiracy theory”;

• academia’s failure to speak truth to power — what if it had called out the obvious “9/11” lies two decades ago?;

• academia’s servile defence of power and academics as “experts in legitimation”;

• financial pressures on UK universities and their consequences for knowledge production;

• the outsourcing of thinking to AI, even though AI lies;

• AI and the threat of mass psychosis, induced one person at a time;

• agentic AI and outsourcing responsibility;

• cognitive warfare and its threat to liberal democracy;

• a society of “smart” phone addicts — “soft” addiction is now turning hard;

• transhumanist as a eugenics discourse; and

• the military dimension to intracorporeal nanotechnologies and human bodies as nodes on a technocratic control grid.